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GregoryPeckory asked:


If so then how can it be a new revelation let alone a final revelation when it’s not even original?

Chris Dugue
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soldier of peace asked:


Appearance

1. Jesus was bearded, as are most Muslims, but only the rare Christian.

2. Jesus dressed modestly. If we close our eyes and form a mental picture, we see flowing robes, from wrists to ankles—much like the loose Arabian thobes and the Indio-Pakistani shalwar kameez, typical of the Muslims of those areas. What we don’t imagine is the revealing or seductive clothing so ubiquitous in Christian cultures.

3. Jesus’ mother covered her hair, and this practice was maintained among the Christian women of the Holy Land up to the middle of the twentieth century. Again, this is a practice maintained among Muslims as well as Orthodox Jews (of which Jesus was one), but not among modern day Christians.
Manners

1. Jesus focused upon salvation and eschewed finery. How many “righteous” Christians fit this “It’s not just on Sundays” profile? Now how many “five prayers a day, every day of the year” Muslims?

2. Jesus spoke with humility and kindness. He didn’t “showboat.” When we think of his speeches, we don’t imagine theatrics. He was a simple man known for quality and truth. How many preachers and how many evangelists follow this example?

3. Jesus taught his disciples to offer the greeting of “Peace” (Luke 10:5), and then set the example: “Peace be with you” (Luke 24:36, John 20:19, John 20:21, John 20:26). Who continues this practice to this day, Christians or Muslims? “Peace be with you” is the meaning of the Muslim greeting, “Assalam alaikum.” Interestingly enough, we find this greeting in Judaism as well (Genesis 43:23, Numbers 6:26, Judges 6:23, I Samuel 1:17 and I Samuel 25:6).
Religious Practices

1. Jesus was circumcised (Luke 2:21). Paul taught it wasn’t necessary (Rom 4:11 and Gal 5:2). Muslims believe it is.

2. Jesus didn’t eat pork, in keeping with Old Testament law (Leviticus 11:7 and Deuteronomy 14:8). Muslims also believe pork is forbidden. Christians … well, you get the idea.

3. Jesus didn’t give or take usury, in compliance with the Old Testament prohibition (Exodus 22:25). Usury is forbidden in the Old Testament and the Quran, as it was forbidden in the religion of Jesus. The economies of most Christian countries, however, are structured upon usury.

4. Jesus didn’t fornicate, and abstained from extramarital contact with women. Now, this issue extends to the least physical contact with the opposite ***. With the exception of performing religious rituals and helping those in need, Jesus never even touched a woman other than his mother. Strictly practicing Orthodox Jews maintain this practice to this day in observance of Old Testament law. Likewise, practicing Muslims don’t even shake hands between the sexes. Can Christian “hug your neighbor” and “kiss the bride” congregations make the same claim?
Practices of Worship

1. Jesus purified himself with washing prior to prayer, as was the practice of the pious prophets who preceded him (see Exodus 40:31-32 in reference to Moses and Aaron), and as is the practice of Muslims.

2. Jesus prayed in prostration (Matthew 26:39), like the other prophets (see Nehemiah 8:6 with regard to Ezra and the people, Joshua 5:14 for Joshua, Genesis 17:3 and 24:52 for Abraham, Exodus 34:8 and Numbers 20:6 for Moses and Aaron). Who prays like that, Christians or Muslims?

3. Jesus fasted for more than a month at a time (Matthew 4:2 and Luke 4:2), as did the pious before him (Exodus 34:28, I Kings 19:8), and as do Muslims in the annual fast of the month of Ramadan.

4. Jesus made pilgrimage for the purpose of worship, as all Orthodox Jews aspire to do. The Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca is well known, and is alluded to in the Bible (see The First and Final Commandment).
Matters of Creed

1. Jesus taught the oneness of God (Mark 12:29-30, Matthew 22:37 and Luke 10:27), as conveyed in the first commandment (Exodus 20:3). Nowhere did he declare the Trinity.

2. Jesus declared himself a man and a prophet of God (see above), and nowhere claimed divinity or divine sonship. Which creed are the above points more consistent with—the Trinitarian formula or the absolute monotheism of Islam?

In short, Muslims appear to be the “Jesus freaks” of modern day, if by that expression we mean those who live by God’s laws and Jesus’ example.

Carmichael notes, “… for a whole generation after Jesus’ death his followers were pious Jews and proud of it, had attracted into their fold members of the professional religious classes, and did not deviate even from the burdensome ceremonial laws.”

One wonders what happened between the practices of the first generation of Jesus’ followers and the Christians of modern day. At the same time, we have to respect the fact that Muslims exemplify Jesus’ teachings more than Christians do. Furthermore, we should remember that the Old Testament foretold three prophets to follow. John the Baptist and Jesus Christ were numbers one and two, and Jesus Christ himself predicted the third and last. Hence, both Old and New Testaments speak of a final prophet, and we would be amiss if we didn’t consider that final prophet to be Muhammad, and the final revelation to be that of Islam.

what do you think of this

Tabetha Gorney

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stackoladan asked:


If so, where is this written in the Old Testament? If you acknowledge the Bible as a holy book, then it must be written in there somewhere.

I base this question on the following:
… Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and the Final Seal of the Prophets.” (Surat al-Ahzab: 40)

Yon Ransbottom

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Struggling Through asked:


We understand the body is the final temple, but does it state anywhere specifically that physical temples (such as used by Mormons, for example) are not to be used anymore? Or is this just an assumption?

Courtney Rakoczy
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SubhanAllah:) asked:


The final book in the New Testament that specifically deals with the end of time and the return of Jesus is known as The Book of ????

Lauran Ogley
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Truth Teller asked:


Do you know any of these:

(1) That Islam is an ancient religion starting at the time when the universe was created and the time of Prophet Adam [pbuh]

(2) That the God of Islam is the SAME God as in Christianity and Judaism

(3) That no Muslim can be a Muslim UNLESS he accepts that Jesus is the Messenger of God (as such it is the only non-Christian faith that makes it an article of faith that you must accept Jesus [pbuh] as a Prophet of God)

(4) That the holy books of Islam are
- the Book of Moses (1st Testament)
- the Psalms of David
- the Gospel of Jesus (2nd Testament)
- the Noble Quran (3rd and final Testament)

(5) That Jesus [pbuh] Jesus had brown skin and a long beard. He prayed prostrated on his knees. He fasted for one month a year. In his mother tongue of Aramaic, he called God ‘Allaha’ (as Moses said ‘Ella’) he was a revolutionary who preached the validity of the scriptures that came before him and he prophesised the coming of a final Prophet, The ‘Comforter

Augusta Fatheree

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Ian R asked:


In the early days of Christianity, there were distinct traditions about the deaths of virtually all of the chief Biblical characters, but complete silence about Mary, the mother of Jesus. In the year 375 AD, the great Christian teacher, Epiphanius, played “coy” by saying that her final fate was something “wondrous” and “beyond the comprehension” of people, admitting that the collection of New Testament scriptural books could not be expected to “record” every event in the life of Jesus or any of his comtemporaries. Epiphanius refered to “hints” that her final fate was deliberately a mystery–she may have been a martyr, or she may be the “Woman” of Revelation 12 (flown to paradise), or she may have “remained alive” because “God can do what he pleases.” Did the woman who allegedly gave her own flesh & blood to the Living God become riddled with maggots? Or, did something special happen? Enoch and Elijah were prematrely “raptured” because of “favor.” What happened to the “favored” Mary?

Cindy Greenough
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GregoryPeckory asked:


It isn’t even original.

Sixta Tutton
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Punter – fidvi@hotmail.com asked:


A. THE FORMATION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT CANON (A.D. 100-220)

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03274a.htm

The idea of a complete and clear-cut canon of the New Testament existing from the beginning, that is from Apostolic times, has no foundation in history. The Canon of the New Testament, like that of the Old, is the result of a development, of a process at once stimulated by disputes with doubters, both within and without the Church, and retarded by certain obscurities and natural hesitations, and which did not reach its final term until the dogmatic definition of the Tridentine Council. (“Canon of the New Testament”)
There is a lot of confusion about the earliest existing texts of the Bible. The oldest extant manuscript of the Bible is believed to be the Codex Vaticanus, (preserved in the Vatican Library), which is slightly older than the Codex Sinaiticus (preserved in the British Library), both of which were transcribed in the fourth century.
As for the story of Jesus, there were at least 50 gospels written in the first and second century CE. Four of them (Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John) were included in the official canon during the fourth century CE and are found today in every Bible. All of the original copies of the gospels were lost. What we have now are handwritten copies, which are an unknown number of replications removed from the originals.
Rudolf Bultmann, a prominent 20th-century professor of New Testament studies writes about the life of Jesus:
We can now know almost nothing concerning the life and personality of Jesus, since the early Christian sources show no interest in either, are moreover fragmentary and often legendary; and other sources about Jesus do not exist. (Bultmann 8)

Justina Tegner

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vahid asked:


Quran, Bible and the New Testament, to name a few, are product of year of writing and many scribes. Then in the case of the Bible and the New Testament, a committee got together and consecrated the text leaving out the books with which they did not agree. If the final editor of these books were a group of humans, haw can these books be called works God?

Jamison Badeau
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